Friday, June 17, 2011

Analysis of Troops: Stage two Close Combat wounds dealt

Continuing down our exploration of the 40k troop choices, we'll take a look at which units dole out the most wounds point for point.  I crunched the numbers for all the basic troops against opponents with WS3 and 4 and Toughness 3 and 4, to see how effective these units are in close combat for the points you spend. I also did not take charging into account. SO cutting to the chase here are the rankings.


No real surprise that Orks rank at the top, with 3 attacks each and WS 4 at 6 points they can really pump out a lot of punishment.  I find it interesting the Ripper swarms place so highly and most people completely disregard them as an option (due to their special rules).

Also of note, for those that argue Grey Knights are sub par in the assault...that holds true as Strike squads are point for point the equivalent of eldar guardians, and point for point their terminators are worse than tactical marines and barely better than Tau Fire Warriors.  Now GKs have other advantages that are not being looked at here, but from sheer output of wounds, they don't stack up.

Finally the last thing I find interesting, is that for wound output point for point, Summoned Lesser Daemons in the Chaos Space marine codex are better than Bloodletters (when you take other things into account, as we will later this does not hold up on the table.)

Overall rank
 Troop type
1
  Ork Boyz
2
  Shoota Boyz
3
Rippers
4
Hormagaunts
5
Wyches
5
Templars
7
Berzerkers
8
Genestealers
9
Summoned Lesser Daemons
10
Bloodletters
10
Nurglings
12
Kroot
13
CSM
14
Daemonettes
15
Grey Hunters
16
Guard Infantry Platoon
17
Tyranid Warriors
18
Blood Claws
19
Termagants
19
Gretchin
21
BA Assault Squad
22
Penal Legion
23
Death company
24
Veterans
25
Noise marines
26
Plague marines
27
DE Warriors
28
Guardians
28
GK Strike Squad
30
Plague bearers
31
Dire Avengers
32
DA Tacticals
33
Tacticals
34
Inquisitorial Storm Troopers
35
Scouts
36
GK Terminators
37
Fire Warriors
38
Necron Warriors
39
Battle Sisters
40
Thousand Sons
41
Pink Horrors
42
Rangers
43
Guardian Jetbikes

 




So here are the numbers for those who are interested.

Overall rank
Troop type
# of Models
WS3 T3
WS4 T3
WS3  T4
WS4 T4
1
Ork Boyz
16.6666667
16.66666667
12.5
11.1111111
8.33333334
2
Shoota Boyz
16.6666667
11.11111111
12.5
7.40740741
5.55555556
3
Rippers
10
10
10
6.66666667
6.66666667
4
Hormagaunts
16.6666667
8.583333335
8.58333334
5.72222222
5.72222222
5
Wyches*
10
7.407407407
5.74074074
5.67901235
4.44444444
5
Templars**
6.25
7.407407407
6.25
5.55555556
4.16666667
7
Berzerkers
4.76190476
6.349206349
6.34920635
4.76190476
4.76190476
8
Genestealers
7.14285714
6.349206349
6.34920635
4.76190476
4.76190476
9
Summoned Lesser Daemons
7.69230769
6.837606837
5.12820513
5.12820513
3.84615385
10
Bloodletters
6.25
5.555555556
5.55555556
4.16666667
4.16666667
10
Nurglings
7.69230769
5.769230769
5.76923077
3.84615385
3.84615385
12
Kroot
14.2857143
6.349206351
4.76190476
4.76190476
3.57142857
13
CSM
6.66666667
5.925925926
4.44444444
4.44444444
3.33333333
14
Daemonettes
7.14285714
5.357142857
5.35714286
3.57142857
3.57142857
15
Grey Hunters
6.66666667
5.925925926
4.44444444
4.44444444
3.33333333
16
Guard Infantry Platoon
19.2307692
5.307692308
5.30769231
3.53846154
3.53846154
17
Tyranid Warriors
3.33333333
4.814814814
4.81481481
3.61111111
3.61111111
18
Blood Claws
6.66666667
4.444444445
4.77777778
3.58333333
3.58333333
19
Termagants
20
5
5
3.33333333
3.33333333
19
Gretchin
27.5
5.583333333
5.25
3.01388889
2.79166667
21
BA Assault Squad
5.2631579
5.122807018
3.84210526
3.84210526
2.88157895
22
Penal Legion***
12.5
4.583333333
4.58333333
3.05555556
3.05555556
23
Death company
5
5
3.75
3.33333333
2.5
24
Veterans
14.2857143
4.071428573
4.07142857
2.71428572
2.71428572
25
Noise marines
5
4.444444444
3.33333333
3.33333333
2.5
26
Plague marines
4.34782609
3.8647343
2.89855072
2.89855072
2.17391304
27
DE Warriors
11.1111111
3.703703703
2.77777778
2.4691358
1.85185185
28
Guardians
12.5
3.125
3.125
2.08333333
2.08333333
28
GK Strike Squad
5
3.25308642
2.43981481
2.59259259
1.94444444
30
Plague bearers
6.66666667
2.5
2.5
2.5
2.5
31
Dire Avengers
8.33333333
2.777777778
2.08333333
1.85185185
2.94444444
32
DA Tacticals
6.06060606
3.138047138
2.35353535
2.35353535
1.76515152
33
Tacticals
5.88235294
3.058823529
2.29411765
2.29411765
1.72058824
34
Inquisitorial Storm Troopers
10
2.75
2.75
1.83333333
1.83333333
35
Scouts
7.14285714
2.714285714
2.03571429
2.03571429
2.03571429
36
GK Terminators
2.5
2.731481481
2.04861111
2.17592593
1.63194444
37
Fire Warriors
10
2.5
2.5
1.66666667
1.66666667
38
Necron Warriors
5.55555556
2.469135803
1.85185185
1.85185185
1.38888889
39
Battle Sisters
9.09090909
2.272727273
2.27272727
1.51515152
1.51515152
40
Thousand Sons
3.6101083
2.048937024
1.53670277
1.53670277
1.15252708
41
Pink Horrors
5.88235294
1.470588235
1.47058824
0.98039216
0.98039216
42
Rangers
5.2631579
1.315789474
1.31578947
0.87719298
0.87719298
43
Guardian Jetbikes
4.54545455
1.136363636
1.13636364
0.75757576
0.75757576


































* Yes I did take Combat drugs into account for the Wyches
** Templars were calculated using Prefered enemy, due to Accept any chalange because everyone takes this Vow
*** I did calculate the Penal Legion taking the chances of getting Knife Fighters

Wednesday, June 1, 2011

Analysis of Troops: Stage one Shooting with Standard Weapons against T4 enemies.

After reading Distaste for Vanilla Space Marine Troops over on the 11th Company forums I got to thinking, how bad are Space Marine Tactical Squads really?  How do they stack up against the other codices as far as troop choices go on a point for point basis?

For my first analysis I decided to see how the various troop choices (there are 42 different troop options in the whole of 40k not counting troops unlocked using special characters, troops unlocked through some other means: Tervigons for example, and I also excluded the Death Company Dread for ease of comparison) did in shooting at a T4 opponent with their standard load out (no upgrades taken, except the weapons platform for Eldar Guardians because it is mandatory, I took the Shuriken catapult as it was the least expensive option.)

For this analysis I compared the shooting of 100 points of each type of troop, to make it a fair comparison from a points aspect (of course 200 points of marines shoot better than 50 points of Gretchin for example.).  I also broke down shooting into 3 Categories Range Greater than 24 inches, Range from 13-24 inches, and Range of 12 inches or less.  This does leave a little grey area at 18" as some units have 18" range guns which are no good at 24", but I decided to not get even more complex so this is obviously a little Skewed.

That said here is what I came up with for the final ranking.



1 DE Warriors
2 Fire Warriors
2 Kroot
4 Dire Avengers/Shoota Boyz
5 IG Veterans
6 Battle Sisters
7 Guard Infantry Platoon
8 Pink Horrors
9 Grey Hunters
10 CSM
11 Inquisitorial Storm Troopers
12 Penal Legion
13 GK Strike Squad
14 Templars
15 DA Tacticals
16 Tacticals
17 Termagants
18 Gretchin
19 Necron Warriors
20 Tyranid Warriors
21 Guardians
22 Scouts
23 Blood Claws
24 Noise marines
25 Thousand Sons
26 Plague marines
27 Rangers
28 Wyches
29 Ork Boyz
30 BA Assault Squad
31 GK Terminators
32 Death company
33 Guardian Jetbikes
34 Berzerkers
35 Bloodletters
35 Daemonettes
35 Genestealers
35 Hormagaunts
35 Nurglings
35 Plague bearers
35 Rippers
35 Summoned Lesser Daemons   









Now it is obvious why the units that tied for 35th overall did so as none of those units can shoot at all.  What I found interesting was just how high Kroot placed, with only BS 3 and a bolter that is AP 6, they also end up just as good as Fire Warriors (better if you discount the high placement of Fire warriors in the shooting over 24" category, as only 2 squads have standard firepower over 24", Fire Warriors and Eldar Rangers.)  Now of course accounting for AP could be important but T4 Could mean Marines, or it could mean orks so I just wanted to look at total number of wounds caused.



Also interesting keep in mind is that if you make the Ork Boyz shoota boyz (a free upgrade) they are equivalent to Dire avengers, so point for point Orks shoot better than any of the marines using standard/free upgrades.






Here is the math for all units

Unit Name
Wounds VS T4

Number of models 25"+ 13-24" less than 12"
BA Assault Squad 5.263157895 0 1.754385965
Battle Sisters 9.090909091 0  3.030303   6.060606061
Berzerkers 4.761904762 0 0 0
Blood Claws 6.666666667 0 1.666667  3.333333333
Bloodletters 6.25 0 0 0
CSM 6.666666667 0 2.222222 4.444444444
DA Tacticals 6.060606061 0 2.020202 4.04040404
Daemonettes 7.142857143 0 0 0
DE Warriors 11.11111111 0 3.703704 7.407407407
Death company 5 0 0 1.666666667
Dire Avengers 8.333333333 0 5.555556 5.555555556
Fire Warriors 10 3.333333 3.333333 6.666666667
Genestealers 7.142857143 0 0 0
GK Strike Squad 5 0 3.333333 3.333333333
GK Terminators 2.5 0 1.666667 1.666666667
Gretchin 27.5 0 0 4.583333333
Grey Hunters 6.666666667 0 2.222222 4.444444444
Guard Infantry Platoon 19.23076923 0 2.705128 5.965811966
Guardian Jetbikes 4.545454545 0 0 1.291322314
Guardians 12.5 0 1.25 4.375
Hormagaunts 16.66666667 0 0 0
Inquisitorial Storm Troopers 10 0 2.222222 4.444444444
Kroot 14.28571429 0 3.571429 7.142857143
Necron Warriors 5.555555556 0 1.851852 3.703703704
Noise marines 5 0 1.666667 3.333333333
Nurglings 7.692307692 0 0 0
Ork Boyz 16.66666667 0 0 2.777777778
Penal Legion 12.5 0 2.555556 4
Pink Horrors 5.882352941 0 4.411765 4.411764706
Plague bearers 6.666666667 0 0 0
Plague marines 4.347826087 0 1.449275 2.898550725
Rangers 5.263157895 1.754386 1.754386 1.754385965
Rippers 10 0 0 0
Scouts 7.142857143 0 1.785714 3.571428571
Shoota Boyz 16.66666667 0 5.555556 5.555555556
Summoned Lesser Daemons 7.692307692 0 0 0
Tacticals 5.882352941 0 1.960784 3.921568627
Templars 6.25 0 2.083333 4.166666667
Termagants 20 0 0 5
Thousand Sons 3.610108303 0 1.786703 2.656738869
Tyranid Warriors 3.333333333 0 2.5 2.5
Veterans 14.28571429 0 3.174603 6.349206349
Wyches 10 0 0 3.333333333